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Velodyne Digital Drive SMS-1(Report on P.5 & Curve on P.10)

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文章發表人 Rookie 發表於 2006-06-30, 10:56

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Rookie 寫:Just spent a little bit time to play with the Parametric EQ inside the SMS-1 tonight. It is so interesting! :ebsmile:

Below are the revised SYSTEM SETTINGS & SYSTEM RESPONSE.

Special notes:
1. The volume of Preset 5 is changed from 20 to 25.
2. The Q values for all frequency remains default.
3. The output level below 20Hz can be boost for an additional 6 db. However, I have only boosted frequency at 15Hz up by 3 db only because boosting it up further may be too risky for the subwoofer. I believe that frequency below 20Hz can be improved a little bit further with subwoofer relocation. And, this will be verified very soon. :a009:


Hi Rookie,

Why your curve at 15hz is not at 80hz but below?
I read the manual, it should start at 76hz
:hypno: :hypno: :a013: :a013:


Oh! What do you mean? You mean the decibel level of 15 hz should start at above 76db? :a013: :a013: :a013: :hypno: :hypno: :hypno:


yes. then u can hv more straight line? i am not sure it is correct or not. :hypno:


I see. That's what I wanna to do. Sooner or later, I need to move my subwoofer to a better location so that the frequency below 20Hz can be improved a little further without boosting it up too much by manual adjustment.

In fact, my subwoofer is M&K MX350THX, not Velodyne DD-12/15.

As what BeanBean said, M&K MX350THX rolls off very fast after 20Hz. It is really a weakness of the subwoofer itself. :coldsweat2: :coldsweat2: :coldsweat2:


I found that position is not the main problem :coldsweat2: I tried to move my PCU around, and the super low frequency will not increase.


Agree. Moving the subwoofer around is only an option, but may probably not give out significant improvement in frequency below 20Hz.

And, I totally anticipated that M&K MX350THX has its limit in generating good quality of frequency below 20Hz. :coldsweat2: :coldsweat2: :coldsweat2:


I came across some literature in the past that the room size need to be of reasonable length in order to produce very low frequency such as those below 20Hz. If your room is not able to meet this minimum size criteria, even though your subwoofer can able to produce those low frequency but the generated frequency within the room will be deteriorated leading to relatively low recorded output.

My memory may be wrong !

:selfpun: :selfpun: :selfpun: :selfpun: :selfpun:

Moreover, for normal people, frequency below 20Hz is not able to "hear" but may be someone can "feel" for those with sensitive skin or body. If this is the case, it may be totally acceptable for a good subwoofer performed consistently above 20Hz (major need) and it may not need although preferred to show some ultra performance below 20Hz.

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That makes sense! :great: :great: :great:

Even though the subwoofer itself is capable of producing frequency below 20Hz in perfect room condition, room acoustic and speaker placement in actual room condition are also key factors that determinie whether frequency below 20Hz can be generated or not. :modlaugh: :modlaugh: :modlaugh:

Please excuse my stupid comment. I think room size might have some effect on the 20hz and below reproduction, but as you can see the below graph, my 100sq ft room can still have 10hz in large amount. It depends on the subwoofer too. :003:

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BeanBean,

Agree your comment that the SVS subwoofer can output large amount of frequency below 20Hz.

I wish that I could order a cylinder for my home too. Unfortunately, the 220V version is no long avaliable. :unhappy: :unhappy: :unhappy:
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文章發表人 MartinTong 發表於 2006-07-01, 01:18

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Rookie 寫:Just spent a little bit time to play with the Parametric EQ inside the SMS-1 tonight. It is so interesting! :ebsmile:

Below are the revised SYSTEM SETTINGS & SYSTEM RESPONSE.

Special notes:
1. The volume of Preset 5 is changed from 20 to 25.
2. The Q values for all frequency remains default.
3. The output level below 20Hz can be boost for an additional 6 db. However, I have only boosted frequency at 15Hz up by 3 db only because boosting it up further may be too risky for the subwoofer. I believe that frequency below 20Hz can be improved a little bit further with subwoofer relocation. And, this will be verified very soon. :a009:


Hi Rookie,

Why your curve at 15hz is not at 80hz but below?
I read the manual, it should start at 76hz
:hypno: :hypno: :a013: :a013:


Oh! What do you mean? You mean the decibel level of 15 hz should start at above 76db? :a013: :a013: :a013: :hypno: :hypno: :hypno:


yes. then u can hv more straight line? i am not sure it is correct or not. :hypno:


I see. That's what I wanna to do. Sooner or later, I need to move my subwoofer to a better location so that the frequency below 20Hz can be improved a little further without boosting it up too much by manual adjustment.

In fact, my subwoofer is M&K MX350THX, not Velodyne DD-12/15.

As what BeanBean said, M&K MX350THX rolls off very fast after 20Hz. It is really a weakness of the subwoofer itself. :coldsweat2: :coldsweat2: :coldsweat2:


I found that position is not the main problem :coldsweat2: I tried to move my PCU around, and the super low frequency will not increase.


Agree. Moving the subwoofer around is only an option, but may probably not give out significant improvement in frequency below 20Hz.

And, I totally anticipated that M&K MX350THX has its limit in generating good quality of frequency below 20Hz. :coldsweat2: :coldsweat2: :coldsweat2:


I came across some literature in the past that the room size need to be of reasonable length in order to produce very low frequency such as those below 20Hz. If your room is not able to meet this minimum size criteria, even though your subwoofer can able to produce those low frequency but the generated frequency within the room will be deteriorated leading to relatively low recorded output.

My memory may be wrong !

:selfpun: :selfpun: :selfpun: :selfpun: :selfpun:

Moreover, for normal people, frequency below 20Hz is not able to "hear" but may be someone can "feel" for those with sensitive skin or body. If this is the case, it may be totally acceptable for a good subwoofer performed consistently above 20Hz (major need) and it may not need although preferred to show some ultra performance below 20Hz.

:043: :043: :043: :043: :043:


That makes sense! :great: :great: :great:

Even though the subwoofer itself is capable of producing frequency below 20Hz in perfect room condition, room acoustic and speaker placement in actual room condition are also key factors that determinie whether frequency below 20Hz can be generated or not. :modlaugh: :modlaugh: :modlaugh:

Please excuse my stupid comment. I think room size might have some effect on the 20hz and below reproduction, but as you can see the below graph, my 100sq ft room can still have 10hz in large amount. It depends on the subwoofer too. :003:

圖檔


BeanBean,

Agree your comment that the SVS subwoofer can output large amount of frequency below 20Hz.

I wish that I could order a cylinder for my home too. Unfortunately, the 220V version is no long avaliable. :unhappy: :unhappy: :unhappy:


me too :unhappy: :unhappy: :unhappy:
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文章發表人 Rookie 發表於 2006-07-02, 00:24

The curve is being updated today.

After moving the subwoofer approximate two feet closer to wall corner, I can obtain a little flatter curve with the SMS-1.

Comparing to previous settings, the main volume level of SMS-1 is changed from 25 to 18.

The major findings are that moving subwoofer around the listening area may indeed achieve higher level at certain frequencies. Meanwhile, levels of some other frequencies may also be reduced because of the same action.

However, I also realized that moving the subwoofer around may probably not improve level of frequencies below 20 Hz if the subwoofer is weak in producing such frequency range itself. :coldsweat2:
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文章發表人 Raymond Wan 發表於 2006-07-03, 05:47

Extremely consistent and stable output response between 25Hz and 80Hz <-- good enough for normal home theatre.

:eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :a012: :a012: :038: :038:

In fact, what are the dimensions of your listening area ?

You may have interest to appreciate and understand the limitations on achieving acoustics response from a room.

:confused: :confused: :share: :share:

Please read some of my collections on room acoustics recommended by Prof. Peter So:

Room Acoustics:
http://www.linkwitzlab.com/rooms.htm

Room Shape and Size:
http://www.saecollege.de/reference_mate ... omodes.htm

Good Information & Education on Home Theatre:
http://www.modernhometheater.com/howto/index.html
Please look for "Sound Tips" ..... ......

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文章發表人 Rookie 發表於 2006-07-03, 08:55

Raymond Wan 寫:Extremely consistent and stable output response between 25Hz and 80Hz <-- good enough for normal home theatre.

:eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :a012: :a012: :038: :038:

In fact, what are the dimensions of your listening area ?

You may have interest to appreciate and understand the limitations on achieving acoustics response from a room.

:confused: :confused: :share: :share:

Please read some of my collections on room acoustics recommended by Prof. Peter So:

Room Acoustics:
http://www.linkwitzlab.com/rooms.htm

Room Shape and Size:
http://www.saecollege.de/reference_mate ... omodes.htm

Good Information & Education on Home Theatre:
http://www.modernhometheater.com/howto/index.html
Please look for "Sound Tips" ..... ......

:selfpun: :selfpun: :selfpun: :hypno: :hypno: :hypno:


The dimensions of my listening area are 14 feet (Depth) x 13.5 feet (width) x 9.5 feet (height).

I know that there are quite a few issues that may limit achieving certain acoustic responses from my listening area, especially square-shape like.

Anyway, thanks a lot for the links. :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:
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