Onkyo TX-NR1000 AV AMP Show In JMlab Showroom 2004

發表人 **火星人** 發表於 2005-01-11, 20:52

咁king pang兄你係咪覺得安q avamp冇力定係覺得jm lab果個sub唔掂呢 ? :dont_un:

發表人 **king pang** 發表於 2005-01-12, 04:37

小超人兄:

我只認為:JMlab 方面的這個解釋 : "低頻係需要某距離才可潛得低一點"唔妥.且有誤導(解釋者水平不高)onkyo av amp 我倒覺得系幾好.起碼音樂感好過dn. 且onkyo 1000一定唔會力水不足.

音箱的灵敏度及頻繁特性測試有個公認統一標準方法.就是不管測量什麼(被動式)音箱.都是在無音室內.在距喇叭1米的距離放置全頻咪(或及分貝計).並輸入1 w的功率來進行測試(即所有1W/1米).如此可知JMlab 方面的這個解釋是不能成立的.如果佢成立.就根本唔會咁測法
前排與後排音壓必不等.即使在家中環境你也要靠後些低音才較強勁.但這只是因皇帝位---多個喇叭的焦點所在.與"低頻係需要某距離才可潛得低一點"根本完全沒有關係.

發表人 **火星人** 發表於 2005-01-12, 07:08

JMlab 方面的代言人係邊聒果個呢？　好想知中環定旺角 thanks

發表人 **king pang** 發表於 2005-01-12, 12:57

JMlab 方面的這個解釋 : "低頻係需要某距離才可潛得低一點"

真唔好意思.尼句說話我系睇到最頂層車仔哥所講就有感而發啽瘋啫.到底是那位.就真系要問車仔哥la :selfpun:

發表人 **Racingboy** 發表於 2005-01-12, 13:52

小超人寫:JMlab 方面的代言人係邊聒果個呢？　好想知中環定旺角 thanks

你想以後無報告睇

！？
自己諗諗啦

！

我諗 ONKYO 唔會睇呢啲唔係繕稿網卦 :ebsmile:

！？

否則以後無相睇喇 :confused:

！

就好似剛剛某牌子嘅旗艦級DVD機做鬚 :001:

，居然

話比影相

，所以廢時提添呀

！

發表人 **Racingboy** 發表於 2005-01-12, 14:11

king pang 寫:JMlab 方面的這個解釋 : "低頻係需要某距離才可潛得低一點"

真唔好意思.尼句說話我系睇到最頂層車仔哥所講就有感而發啽瘋啫.到底是那位.就真系要問車仔哥la

king pang兄：其實小弟都應同 :eusa_clap:

大哥你的說法，只係小弟唔想講得 :043:

咁白啫

！

我實在覺得不太滿意 :dont_agree:

當日的表現，當時做完鬚後，我亦有查詢有關的工作人員，原來我睇那場鬚之前的一場，在完場之後，有些好奇的準買家，稍為按動過部 NR-1000 部，可能 :question2:

在這樣的情況下而失準 :notinterest:

，所以有心想

買的準買家，不要

以我或其他網兄的個人意見為準，務請自行親身體驗後才作決定 :049:

，咁你就係一位出色的 AV100Fun 小混混喇 :a012:

！

發表人 **king pang** 發表於 2005-01-12, 14:12

車仔哥講得冇錯......

話時話.我都唔得多謝車仔哥尼篇詳細报導tin..... :great:

因為我都好中意 onkyo.佢嘅一部咸豐年嘅 intergra A 701XD 我仲唔捨得掉.但最早天龍第一部有thx嘅 av amp (即 LD 出 THX T2年代)早就掉左.果陣佢都系賣 HKD.29800.

發表人 **Racingboy** 發表於 2005-01-12, 14:40

小超人寫:咁king pang兄你係咪覺得安q avamp冇力定係覺得jm lab果個sub唔掂呢 ?

我個人覺得用 NR-1000 黎推咁多款 JMLab 的高級型號喇叭 :038:

，由其係隻中置

，可能未免有點兒吃力呢 :a003:

！

JMLab方面當時亦曾講過，JMLab 的喇叭特性係無乜味精的一類，佢只會忠實地反眏播放器材的特性....... :005:

！

如果這場鬚可以用返啲平一點的型號喇叭，可能我會原全改觀今次的表現 :ebsmile:

。

希望

ONKYO 方面吸收了這次的經驗，祈待下次再改進而有個美好的鬚呢 :001:

！

發表人是旦發表於 2005-01-12, 16:54

NR1000聽講就來會冇貨返﹐下水要到April.

發表人 **火星人** 發表於 2005-01-12, 20:01

嘿嘿~~令你幾人不安...不好意思, 我係擔心p記10i都唔夠力堆center be 先問到出腸 :048:

, 你知啦買center be 都唔知去邊度有一部好m試 ..頭痕中 :dont_un:

發表人老虎發表於 2005-01-12, 22:19

hihi

發表人 **silver_chariot** 發表於 2005-01-13, 00:18

Racingboy 寫:
silver_chariot 寫:Thanks for the report!

I saw you there that day too! I should have given my 2 cents on demo.

silver_chariot兄：當日見到你真高興呢！
但當時忙緊，而未能和你暢談，敬請原諒！

你可否用中文寫你的試聽後的感想呢？

Sorry man. Can't type 中文 that well. :sorry:

We can meet up and chat later la...

To sum up, I feel the surround effect is only so so (I sat in the front right, maybe that's the issue).

Could also be the fact that the JM Lab speakers have not been run-in properly and the amp cannot drive them well... a bit disappointed in terms of what I hear.

What I saw was a bit better, quite good image quality, but I have not seen those movies before so I can't really do an apple to apple comparison per se. Is it because those are better version DVD (i-Robot - Korean version???, Shoulin Football - French PAL, Shrek and another Korean movie)? Or the upscaler working? Seems also that the color is not properly tuned... :a003:

I also listen to a bit of 2-channel music, only so so sound quality. I used to own a Onkyo AV amp, so I kind of know what it sounded like. Nothing suprising... :unhappy:

Please don't hit me if I say anything that might annoy the sales around here... :hit:

發表人 **Panzer** 發表於 2005-01-18, 18:26

silver_chariot 寫:
Racingboy 寫:
silver_chariot 寫:Thanks for the report!

I saw you there that day too! I should have given my 2 cents on demo.

silver_chariot兄：當日見到你真高興呢！
但當時忙緊，而未能和你暢談，敬請原諒！

你可否用中文寫你的試聽後的感想呢？

Sorry man. Can't type 中文 that well. We can meet up and chat later la...

To sum up, I feel the surround effect is only so so (I sat in the front right, maybe that's the issue).

Could also be the fact that the JM Lab speakers have not been run-in properly and the amp cannot drive them well... a bit disappointed in terms of what I hear.

What I saw was a bit better, quite good image quality, but I have not seen those movies before so I can't really do an apple to apple comparison per se. Is it because those are better version DVD (i-Robot - Korean version???, Shoulin Football - French PAL, Shrek and another Korean movie)? Or the upscaler working? Seems also that the color is not properly tuned...

I also listen to a bit of 2-channel music, only so so sound quality. I used to own a Onkyo AV amp, so I kind of know what it sounded like. Nothing suprising...

Please don't hit me if I say anything that might annoy the sales around here...

衛生幫，用小弟有限嘅語文能力替silver_chariot兄作翻譯：

總括來說，我覺得個環繞聲效果只係普普通通 (可能因我坐在右前排的原固)。

也可能是因為JM Lab喇叭尚未煲妥至良好工作狀態，所以部擴音機推得佢地唔好…令我有點兒失望。

影像方面就較好，成像唔錯，但由於我之前未看過那幾套示範嘅影片，所以不能認真確切去比較。究竟係因為那些是較優質的DVD (韓版智能叛變???法版少林足球，史力加和另一套韓國片)定或是升頻部份的功勞? 另外我覺得顏色好像未調較好。 :a003:

我都有聽嗰幾段兩聲道音樂的示範，音質嘛嘛。我曾經擁有過安喬環繞聲擴音機，所以我知道它的聲底，冇驚喜… :unhappy:

發表人 **silver_chariot** 發表於 2005-01-18, 21:52

Thanks Panzer!

發表人 **SKA** 發表於 2005-01-19, 22:35

Racingboy 寫:
小超人寫:JMlab 方面的代言人係邊聒果個呢？　好想知中環定旺角 thanks

你想以後無報告睇！？
自己諗諗啦！

我諗 ONKYO 唔會睇呢啲唔係繕稿網卦！？

否則以後無相睇喇！

就好似剛剛某牌子嘅旗艦級DVD機做鬚，居然話比影相，所以廢時提添呀！

Racingboy,

我喺第個網見倒有相啵...仲映倒超雞火牛 :ebsmile:

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Onkyo TX-NR1000 AV AMP Show In JMlab Showroom 2004